Jude 7

I WAS reading Love is an Orientation last night like the good SSAed Christian that I am. And, firstly, I should say it is a good book written by a guy who is on mission and has obviously spent a lot of time thinking about this particular issue and doing some great practical things. For a straight Christian it is obviously a must-read. But, but in chapter 7 where “the big 5: principles for a more constructive conversation” are outlined, there is talk of Sodom and Gomorrah with a conclusion partly based on Ezekiel 16:49-50 (the bad hospitality passage) without mentioning Jude 7 “just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.” (ESV).  I don’t mean to point the finger at the author; he goes through plenty of passages against homosexuality.

But, I can remember when the pro-gay minister at the church I was going to in 2004 did a series on homosexuality and gave the Sodom and Gomorrah story a favorable treatment by using Ezekiel and not mentioning Jude 7. So here I am mentioning Jude 7. Jude 7 brothers. It’s there. It exists. Though I’m not really a fan of bringing Sodom into discussions anyway because I find the word Sodomite to be unfortunate and not likely to achieve a good response. Sodom has also been misused I would say by a certain type of Christian, which is unfortunate. I used to hate the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, but whether I like it or not, it’s there.

If I had to be involved in a ministry to do with SSA I think it would be helping the church deal with the issue. Helping straight Christians think about it and act on it rather than dealing with GLBT people, but I’m not opposed to that either.  It worries and frustrates me when I see the church and Christians handling it badly or not at all. Like ask your average Christian what they think of gay marriage and it’s not likely to be pretty. Or you see older Christians who are basically homophobic and then young Christians who think it’s fine. But even more than that, I’d like to help people fit it into the narrative of creation, fall, redemption, restoration. That has been one of the most helpful things for me as a Christian. Rather than dealing with an issue by looking at the few verses relating to it, analysing it based on how it fits in with the character of God and the fall of man and Jesus’ sacrifice and the reality of living as paid for people who haven’t experienced all the blessings yet. Instead of just having a bone, it’s like wrapping my thinking in muscle and skin. Chicken bones are just useless bones. Chicken bones with meat are satisfying.


2 thoughts on “Jude 7

  1. You know there are some very good books by Ancient Near Eastern scholars.   One is Out of Order by Donald J. Wold.   It is an exceptional book, and he does a terrific job of debunking pro-gay theology.   The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is more about sexual immorality as a whole.   The attempted homosexual rape is the final act of wickedness which brings God’s wrath down upon S & G.    Jude 7 reflects that thinking.The inhospitality approach doesn’t, after a closer inspection, simply doesn’t hold water.  But then none of the pro-gay theology holds any water.   Ulitmately, what defeats pro-gay theology is the simplicity, clear, direct way it is written in the Bible.   It truly comes down to this:  “Thou shalt not…”   I’m glad you point out Jude 7   It’s a valuable verse.  

  2. Ya it definitely seems like the church avoids the whole gay issue alot of times. Most churches would rather not talk or deal with it. They dont realize that we are right there among them struggling with something that they ignore and pretend does not effect christians and that often the church does not provide an environment that one would feel comfortable reaching out for help on this issue.

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